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Expert: Donohue’s claim that most abusive priests are gay is “unwarranted”
Blog ››› April 2, 2010 11:23 AM EDT ››› JEREMY SCHULMAN
One of the researchers responsible for a landmark statistical study of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church saysthat Catholic League president William Donohue “drew an unwarranted conclusion” from her work when he claimed that “most” of the clergy who committed the abuse have been “gay.”
In a March 30 ad published in The New York Times, Donohue described the sex abuse scandal as a “homosexual crisis.” Donohue added: “Eighty percent of the victims of priestly sexual abuse are male and most of them are post-pubescent. While homosexuality does not cause predatory behavior, and most gay priests are not molesters, most of the molesters have been gay.”
During a March 31 appearance on CNN, Donohue elaborated on his claim, specifically citing a 2004 study produced by researchers at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, which found that 81 percent of the alleged victims of sexual abuse by priests were male. During the CNN segment, Donohue repeated his assertion that “most of the molesters have been gay.”
But in an interview with Media Matters, Margaret Smith — a John Jay College criminologist who worked on the 2004 study — said that while Donohue “quoted the study’s data correctly,” he “drew an unwarranted conclusion” in asserting that most of the abusers were gay.
Explaining that it is an oversimplification to assume to that priests who abuse male victims are gay, Smith said: “The majority of the abusive acts were homosexual in nature. That participation in homosexual acts is not the same as sexual identity as a gay man.”
As an example, Smith pointed to the case of Marcial Maciel Degollado, a prominent Mexican priest who allegedly abused male children and also allegedly carried on affairs with multiple women. Smith noted that while Maciel allegedly abused boys, most people would not think of him as a gay man.
In a November 18, 2009, Politics Daily column about Smith’s research, David Gibson reported:
“What we are suggesting is that the idea of sexual identity be separated from the problem of sexual abuse,” said Margaret Smith, a researcher from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, which is conducting an independent study of sexual abuse in the priesthood from 1950 up to 2002. “At this point, we do not find a connection between homosexual identity and an increased likelihood of sexual abuse.”
A second researcher, Karen Terry, also cautioned the bishops against making a correlation between homosexuality in the priesthood and the high incidence of abuse by priests against boys rather than girls — a ratio found to be about 80-20.
“It’s important to separate the sexual identity and the behavior,” Terry said. “Someone can commit sexual acts that might be of a homosexual nature but not have a homosexual identity.” Terry said factors such as greater access to boys is one reason for the skewed ratio. Smith also raised the analogy of prison populations where homosexual behavior is common even though the prisoners are not necessarily homosexuals, or cultures where men are rigidly segregated from women until adulthood, and homosexual activity is accepted and then ceases after marriage.
Such conclusions, moreover, are not unique to analyses of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. As Think Progress noted, Gregory Herek, a psychology professor at the University of California-Davis, analyzed a number of studies and concluded: “The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so.”
Vatican Faces Second UN Hearing On Sex Abuse Policies; Compliance To Convention Against Torture
VATICAN CITY (RNS) The Vatican next month will face yet another crucial United Nations hearing that will scrutinize the Catholic Church’s response to clerical sex abuse.
The U.N. committee responsible for monitoring implementation of the Convention Against Torture treaty will hear from Vatican officials on May 5-6 during three weeks of hearings to be held in Geneva, starting on April 28.
At issue is whether the church’s handling of the sexual abuse scandal violates international norms against subjecting minors to torture, something that the Vatican’s chief spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, skirted on Tuesday (April 15).
“The Holy See continues to carry out its obligations undertaken on behalf of the Vatican city state and present periodic reports, according to procedures under the convention,” he said.
The Holy See will present its initial report on adherence to the Convention Against Torture, alongside Cyprus, Lithuania, Guinea, Montenegro, Sierra Leone, Thailand and Uruguay.
“It is a normal procedure to which all ‘state parties’ to the convention endorse,” he said. “Taking account of the obligations under the convention, the Holy See endorsed the convention in the name of and on behalf of the Vatican in 2002.”
It will be the second time this year that the Vatican’s global response to clerical sexual abuse has faced intense scrutiny from the U.N. In January, Vatican officials testified for eight hours before a U.N. watchdog for children’s rights in Geneva.
That committee’s report, released in February, denounced the Vatican for adopting policies that allowed priests to sexually abuse thousands of children, and the report called for abusers to be removed immediately.
In a rare interview with an Italian newspaper to mark his first anniversary as pontiff, Pope Francis strongly rejected the report’s findings, saying that no other organization had done more to fight pedophilia and that the church had acted with “transparency and responsibility.”
He has also said dealing with abuse is vital for the church’s credibility and perpetrators should face sanctions.
Last Friday (April 11), Francis said he took personal responsibility for the “evil” of clerical sex abuse, sought forgiveness from victims and said the church must do more to protect children.
The pontiff has established a committee to look at the issue of sex abuse. Half its members are women; among them is Marie Collins, an Irish victim who was abused by a priest as a child.
DOCUMENTARY: “SINS OF FATHER MARCIAL MACIEL” – LEGIONARIES OF CHRIST
“It won’t be possible to save the Legion from its greatest Legionary, pederast Marcel Maciel, a sex abuser for sixty years disguised as a priest. The networks of collusion that allowed this monster to hide his perversions implicate former Pope John Paul II and the current Pope Benedict XVI. The scandal has shaken Mexico and the wound in the Church won’t easily heal over.” Jorge Alonso
In 2006 Mexican academic Fernando González published Marcial Maciel. Los legionarios de Cristo: testimonios y documentos inéditos (The Legion of Christ: unpublished testaments and documents) (Tusquets, 2006), a meticulous investigation into the pederasty of the Legion’s founder and the network of accomplices to it both in that organization and the Catholic ecclesiastical elite. Later, he gave another turn of the screw with revelations and analyses of these criminal practices in the book: La Iglesia del Silencio. De mártires y pederastas (The Church of Silence. Of martyrs and pederasts) (Tusquets, 2009). In the second part of this book González offers new data and new sources about the sexual abuse of Pope John Paul II’s protégée. Emphasizing how difficult it is to investigate the sexual activity of the clergy, he documents accusations that have been made all over the world in recent years by those who have suffered sexual abuse, silence and subterfuge from priests.
Bill Donohue, President of the Catholic League being sued for defamation against priest abuse survivor
Missouri (USA): Catholic church dares to defame a man after he accuses priest of sex abuse, claiming he is a drug-abusing murderer
INDEPENDENCE, MISSOURI (USA) — The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights defamed a man who says he is a victim of priestly sex abuse as a drug-abusing murderer and a Catholic-hating bigot, the man claims in court.
Jon David Couzens Jr. sued The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, its President William Donohue, the KC Catholic League, KC Catholic League President Joe McLiney and KC Catholic League Capacity Secretary James O’Laughlin, in Jackson County Circuit Court.
Couzens claims Donohue defamed him in statements responding to the Kansas City Star’s three-part series on priestly abuse, written by Judy Thomas in December 2011.
The series centered around Couzens’ claims – and subsequent lawsuit against the KC Diocese, Msgr. Thomas O’Brien and Fr. Isaac True – that he and three other altar boys, one of whom committed suicide, were sexually abused in the early 1980s.
“Thomas’ entire soap-opera yarn concerns the allegations of Jon David Couzens,” Donohue said in a statement posted on the Catholic League’s website.
“He says that a priest molested him and three other altar boys back in the early 1980s. But why should we believe a man who only now is coming forward with his tale – he never told a single soul – especially given the fact that he has been implicated in a murder? Thomas never told readers that on the night Mark Trader was murdered about a dozen years ago, Couzens got into a fight with him over a botched drug deal, and although another man was convicted, on appeal it was alleged that Couzens and two other men had ‘motive to commit the murder and the opportunity to do so.’ This is public record, so why the cover up?”
Couzens’ attorney, Rebecca Randles, told Courthouse News she has no idea where Donohue came up with the drug and murder implications. Randles said in an interview that that to her knowledge Couzens has never been subject to any drug or murder-related charges.
In the lawsuit, Couzens claims that he reported Trader’s murder in April 1992 to police, after the killer confessed to him. He claims in the lawsuit that he received a commendation from now-Sen. Claire McCaskill for his good citizenship in the murder investigation and trial.
Donohue ramped up his criticism in another statement on Dec. 8, 2011, speculating on the timing of Couzens’ abuse lawsuit with the emergence of a lawsuit filed earlier that year against the K.C.
Diocese and priest Shawn Ratigan. That lawsuit claimed the Diocese waited nearly 6 months before reporting child pornography found on Ratigan’s computer.
“Couzens may be a hero to the Star, but his character is indeed questionable: he was implicated in a murder,” Donohue said in the statement. “Why hasn’t the Star revealed this to its readers? Does it want to ‘silence’ its critics? Why did Couzens wait 30 years before he told his ‘wrenching’ tale? Because the time was ripe to cash in after Fr. Ratigan’s name hit the papers?”
Randles said her client is not a gold-digger, and that the 30-year delay that Donohue finds suspicious is actually quite normal.
“If the memories are repressed or suppressed, there is no way to bring forth the accusations earlier,” Randles said in the interview. “Also, the average age of (priest) abuse is 12. The average age to report is 42. So 30 years is a common time frame.”
Couzens claims that Donohue’s statements falsely portray him as a drug-abusing killer and a Catholic hating bigot. Donohue’s statements were intended to incite and inflame people to confront Couzens, the lawsuit states.
As a result, Couzens says, he has been physically assaulted, cursed at on the streets, suffered emotional distress and loss of enjoyment of life.
Couzens said in a statement that he did not come forward just for himself.
“In the big picture it is a very sad thing that William Donohue and the Catholic League are attacking those who the Priesthood has already abused,” Couzens said in the statement. “I am not doing this just for me. I now understand why other victims don’t come forward. The things said about me are so cruel and offensive they cut to the core of my being. Others who don’t have my support would cower under these attacks.”
Randles said that statements such as Donohue’s are a common tactic by the Catholic League against those who claim to be abused by priests. She said the Catholic League attempts to bully and harass victims to deter them from moving forward.
Catholic League officials did not respond to a request for comment.
Couzens seeks actual and punitive damages for defamation, invasion of privacy, and negligent and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
“Mr. Donohue has been an outspoken and pugnacious defender of the church,” Randles said. “It’s our hope that he will align himself with things that are factually true.”
Randles said Couzen’s abuse lawsuit filed in 2011 against the KC Diocese and O’Brien is set for trial in April. The suit against True has been settled.
U.N. Panel Criticizes the Vatican Over Sexual Abuse
William Anthony Donohue, vile President of the Catholic League, whom by his own opinion gets to say, in his opinion, whom is really Catholic or not, is such a royal hypocrite.
See Donohue is DIVORCED!!! This means, by the rules of the Roman Catholic Church, HE CANNOT RECEIVE COMMUNION!!!! THIS MEANS HE IS NOT A ROMAN CATHOLIC IF HE CANNOT RECEIVE COMMUNION LEGALLY BY THE RCC.
Yet, Mr Donohue, the belligerent bully of the Catholic League feels he can insult, denigrate, defame, libel and slander anyone whom he believes is NOT a good Catholic in his book. He feels he can attack anyone whom takes a stand against any teaching of the Catholic church.
He can insult and denigrate priest rape and nun abuse survivors as liars, fallen women, people out looking for a payday from the Catholic Church. He can say that we the survivors of priest rape are responsible for our own rapes.
He stated from the stand against me in the State of NH vs Frank LaFerriere, in the Berlin NH district court, where he had me charged with harassment charges, “If a 15 yr old boy is being messed with by a priest and he does not punch him, that means he not only wanted it, he enjoyed it and he is a homosexual.” He also stated that this is not a problem of pedophiles, but of homosexuals.
Well Bill YOU have no right as a fallen, divorced Catholic to even be speaking on Roman Catholic Church issues.
According to the teachings of the RCC, you Bill are in a state of mortal sin for being divorced. Therefor you cannot receive the Holy Communion, therefor you are NOT a true Catholic.
So Bill….stop pretending to be a Catholic.
Bill Donohue, President of the Catholic League for the Defense of Degenerate Pedophiles and Pedophile Pimps of the Roman Catholic Church, bigot, scumbag, Nazi Facist piggy. All of these terms and more fit Bill Donohue of the Catholic League.
Bill Donohue, pig, whom says that if a boy whom is 15 is being raped by a priest and he does not punch that priest in the cocksuckers, then that boy not only wanted it, he is a faggot. Maybe Bill Donohue speaks from first hand experience about being a boy faggot loving being raped by a priest? It sure sounds like he got buggered by quite a few priests when he was just a boy and not just the slap on the wrist by the nun he was talking about. Maybe the reason he got that slap on the wrist is because he refused to swallow the sacred sacrament the priest was pumping into his mouth as he was willingly sucking the priests shriveled old cock?
Maybe that is why Bill Donohue now pals around with known scumbags like Cardinal Timothy Dolan and Roger Mahony? I mean Pedophile Pimps gotta stick together right?
Bill says he speaks for the majority of Catholics? Well he only speaks for the ones whom rape children or cover it up. Most Catholics I have talked to about him find him utterly disgusting and a man with a completely and totally sick and twisted mind. Many of them have said they wish Bill Donohue would be struck dumb and deaf because he does NOT speak for hte majority of Catholics whom want this mess cleaned up and those whom raped us as children and those whom covered it up arrested and prosecuted.
Then Bill says that the RCC does not have a pedophile problem but a homosexual problem. Good old drip chin, closet queen Bill. When is he gonna learn that the ones whom speak out like this against homosexuality are always found to be flamming faggots in the end any way? Hey sorry to my friends in the gay and lesbian community, but he loves using the term faggot because he knows when he looks in the mirror each morning upon waking…he finds himself looking at a faggot and is disgusted by how much he loves sucking on Cardinal Timothy Dolans little cock as well as the cocks of the Cardinals, Archbishops and Bishops of whom protected child rapists and now Bill is happily and greedily sucking the sacred sacrament out of their little dicks too.
Yup in Bills Book the ONLY ones with First Amendment Rights to Free Speech is his nasty ass…but guess what Bill….I have those same First Amendment rights to Free Speech and I will tell you right to your scumbag, bigoted, nazi facist face….you are going to burn in hell for all eternity being gang fucked by the demons of hell billy right next to all your buddy Cardinals, Archbishops and Bishops along with your buddy Pope Emetrius Benedict XVI.
Each one of these Cardinal and Bishop supporters of Bill Donohue and his Catholic League have outrageous, credible evidence against that they participated in the cover ups of the rapes of children by priests of the Roman Catholic Church:
Relationship with the Church The Catholic League claims to be a completely member-supported, lay nonprofit. It has no formal affiliation with the Catholic church; however, it rents its offices from theArchdiocese of New York. Several prominent bishops have spoken out in favor of the Catholic League’s work and urged Catholics to join:
“The Catholic League performs an invaluable service in defending the Faith. All too often, the Church and her faithful are misrepresented and even slandered in contemporary society. However, the Catholic League always stands ready, willing and able to challenge those who would malign us and our beliefs. Ever vigilant, the Catholic League does what other lay organizations hesitate to do—protect the religious and civil rights of Catholics according to the provisions of the United States Constitution. I am happy to assure the Catholic League of my support and esteem.”—Cardinal Edward Egan Archbishop of New York
“I encourage you to join the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights which defends not only the interests of Catholics, but of all victims of anti-religious bigotry.” —Cardinal Roger Mahony Archbishop of Los Angeles
“The Catholic League has the courage to speak up candidly and forcefully for the Church when circumstances call for fighting the good fight. The League should be on every Catholic’s short list of essential organizations to support.” —Most Rev. Charles Chaput Archbishop of Denver
“The Catholic League has done much to ensure that the Church’s positions are presented clearly and fairly. Too often those who do not understand the Church or Her teachings are the interpreters of the doctrines and events in the life of the Church. The work of the League is important in the mission of the Church which must teach the hard truths of the Gospel in season and out of season.” —Cardinal Sean O’Malley Archbishop of Boston
YES BILL DONOHUE, PRESIDENT OF THE CATHOLIC LEAGUE FOR THE PROTECTION AND DEFENSE OF PEDOPHILES AND THEIR PEDOPHILE PIMPS SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH SCUMBAG CARDINALS, ARCHBISHOPS, AND BISHOPS WHOM ARE WELL KNOWN FOR THEIR PARTS IN THE COVER UPS OF THE RAPES OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN BY THE PRIESTS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
WHAT ARE YOU COVERING FOR BILL DONOHUE? HAVE YOU TOO BEEN RAPING CHILDREN? SEE BECAUSE ONLY PEOPLE WHOM RAPE CHILDREN DEFEND AND STAND UP FOR THEIR FELLOW CHILD RAPISTS….I LEARNED THAT IN PRISON IN MICHIGAN. I KNOW BILL…YOU ARE HAVING A CIRCLE JERK WITH DOLAN, MAHONY, CHAPUT, O’MALLEY, EGAN, BENEDICT XVI, LAW, AND OTHERS AND YOU ARE THE CUM CATCH ALL PIVOT MAN BLOWING EACH OF THEIR TINY DICKS CAUSE YOU LOVE THEIR JIZZ SO FUCKING MUCH.
YEAH BILL DONOHUE, PUNK ASSED BULLY OF THE CATHOLIC LEAGUE FOR THE DEFENSE AND PROTECTION OF SCUMBAG DEGENERATES…YOU GOTTA LOVE SCUM LIKE THIS WHOSE MOTHER SHOULD HAVE ABORTED HIS SORRY FUCKING ASS THE FIRST CHANCE SHE GOT TO. THEN SHE WOULD HAVE DONE THE WORLD A FAVOR INSTEAD OF BRINGING THAT LOW LIFE PIECE OF HUMAN WASTE INTO THE WORLD.
Gee Bill Pig Face Donohue….I am gonna now say it. Fuck you.
Gee Billy boy shithead….I am willing to bet if your beautiful daughters were raped by someone, that when they got home from the hospital you would get all into their faces and say:
YOU DID NOT PUNCH YOUR RAPIST IN THE FACE AND YOU DISGUST ME. YOU WANTED TO BE RAPED AND YOU ENJOYED BEING RAPED. YOU ARE A SKANK AND YOU SHOULD LEAVE MY UNHOLY PRESENCE IMMEDIATELY FOR ONE SUCH AS I CANNOT LOOK UPON A SKANK DAUGHTER WHO HAS SEX WITH MEN, EVEN IF THEY RAPED YOU.
Hey Bill….you are going to hell where you will be gang raped on an eternal basis by the demons of hell.
So go fuck yourself punk ass child raping loving piece of shit.
Soon Billy Bob…you are gonna die and you will burn in hell for all eternity.
You Parishioners on here find my postings insulting and degrading, you find my words disgusting and nasty. Well I would ask YOU to read this posting. It will NOT be full of my swears but it speaks the truth. I just want you all to hear, from the words of a Priest Rape Survivor why we cannot forgive you just yet.
When I was diagnosed with PTSD over my priest rape and soul torture, I thought it was bull. I believed that the ONLY people whom could be classified as someone with PTSD were soldiers or those in war zones. Then my therapist started explaining to me what a person whom they diagnose with PTSD goes through, what their life is like…it was like they wrote most of that definition for me.
Yet people still think what I went through can simply go away if I just get over it, forgive the priest, forgive the church, forgive those whom harmed me.
That if I just forget…somehow this will make me all better.
What those whom think this way do not realize, for 33 years I hid what that priest did to me. I felt guilty, I hated myself for what he did to me. I called myself the Antichrist because of it.
When I thought I was the ONLY one who got raped by a priest…once I came out and started raising my voice about this evil…I found there were tens of thousands of us. Then I found out what the leadership did to protect the rapists and not us. Then I found they continue to rape us and harm us by their actions against us.
They continue to deny us justice. They just wish we would shut up and go away. They insult us, denigrate us, call us faggots, say we enjoyed and wanted what happened to us. They call us liars and gold diggers. They say we should look at others whom do the same thing.
How can anyone with what I or others went through EVER hope to get any healing from this, hope to ever find it in our hearts to forgive those whom harmed us…when they continue to do this to us?
Whom do you think Jesus Christ is going to one day, heal our pain and wipe away our tears, take away the never ending nightmares we suffer from because what those whom called themselves priests, Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops and even Popes did to cover this evil up? I have some hope with Pope Francis…we survivors had none with Pope Benedict.
I onced loved the RCC with all of my heart and soul. When I was a young boy taking my Catechism and doing my First Communion…I was hooked to the beauty and the mysticism and most of all…the love of God and Jesus Christ. That I just had the incredible honor of having my first Communion, of taking the Holy Body and Blood of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into me and that meant the world to me at that moment.
That was taken away from me in one night due to the perversities of a priest. Whom that night decided his vows he made to God, Jesus Christ and all of us did not matter, that his lusts mattered, and in that night…he took the soul, the faith and the life of a scared, young boy whom had just ran away from a foster home and thought the next day he was going to go to prison til he was 18 for it.
So when YOU PARISHIONERS hear us survivors of these crimes against us, speak out in anger, speak out in pain, speak out in horror about the evils done to us…do not condemn us…help us…help us heal from all of this suffering, all of this pain. Stand up for us. Stand up for your children. I know if you are true to the church…you have some God children. Remember the vows YOU TOOK…to protect and defend the life of this baby…with your very own if you need to.
If this is true to your heart and soul, if you took vows like these and you felt them burn within you…then do this again. Take the vow again to stand up and defend the Children of the Roman Catholic Church.
Help us heal our pain, help us heal our suffering. Help us.